His Twitter handle is @Going4Golds and now he’s going for gongs.
Sorry.
Already a proud holder of an OBE – unlike some he rarely uses the initials but he does wear the medal in the presence of the Queen – Peter Golds is now being made a CBE, which is of an altogether higher rank.
He’s been awarded it for “services to local government” and undoubtedly his work in Tower Hamlets over the past decade, but particularly in the last five, has won it for him.
He’s the toast of the Isle of Dogs – and further beyond.
Unlike some nonentities in Tower Hamlets politics, he doesn’t have a Wikipedia page, but he does appear in Wikipedia…on Norma Major’s page. It was he who introduced her and John Major.
A true man of history!
Well done, and congratulations.
Trial by Jeory 
Well done
Congratulations Peter. A person of integrity, honesty and tenacity.
Next, a knighthood?
And a high profile position in LBTHC : Speaker or Chair of O&S.
Yes, he deserved that title and hopefully Peter Golds won’t stop there – neither on the account of becoming a Mayor, or getting a Knighthood.
Very well deserved For services to the borough. Especially when he worked for dodgy property companies introducing them to tower Hamlets councillors. Nice work if you can get it
Spikey,
Tell us what is upsetting you.
CC.
Spikey is a total pratt who is jealous of the achievement of others.
CC. Spiky is a Trot and that is very upsetting for all concerned. Take Stewart Madewell for example. Yes please take him, as far away as possible!
Thanks for the free offer, but No Thanks.
🙂
Spiky. Do you have any details of the allegation you have made that Peter Golds worked for ” dodgy ” property companies and profited by ” introducing ” them to ” tower” Hamlets councillors? Or have you just made the whole thing up being the spiteful Marxist you are?
Congratulations to Peter. Good news for a change
Congratulations to Peter on a well-deserved award. Hopefully his talents will be recognised much more in the new Mayor’s administration.
Congratulations to Peter Golds on receiving the first civilian award today that I think is genuinely deserved.
Well done Commander of the British Empire.
3 cheers 🙂
Very many congratulations to Peter. At least somebody in central government noticed what a contribution he has made as well as Mawrey.
CBE is a VERY serious level of award in local government – usually reserved for major heavyweights towards the end of their careers. This is an absolutely exceptional award for a man who has been an ordinary Councillor. (Well OK – an extraordinary Councillor!)
If nothing else maybe this will make John Biggs wake up to the level of regard central government has for Peter Golds. It’s now inconceivable that his contribution is not also given serious recognition within this Council.
Oh dear I find myself saying well done to a tory. Whatever next!
Man of The 339. Well maybe just the recognition that because people spout left wing rhetoric doesn’t mean that they aren’t scumbags.
I’ve read that a few times Dave and still can’t get what you are saying! Sorry.
What I meant 339 was that because someone has a good line in left wing slogans like equality, progress, multiculturalism, inclusion blah blah blah doesn’t exclude them being personally scumbags who, if they attained state power, would murder anyone they disagreed with. Imagine Stuart Madewell, Lutfur Rahman or Ken Livingstone being in charge of the secret police. Not a good scenario.
The standard left analysis of the events in Tower Hamlets is that Lutfur Rahman was an old style municipal socialist who had built thousands of affordable houses, been responsible for new schools and health centres and was standing up to austerity.
His very success meant that he had to be destroyed and Nu Labour in alliance with the Tories/International Capitalism/Neo Liberalism and probably Zionism, those pesky Jews are everywhere, all conspired to bring him down. He is completely innocent of the charges brought against him, Mawrey isn’t even a real judge and the whole thing is a total fabrication.
The latest Gilligan article on his blog is good and he should be recognised as the first journalist to start the ball rolling on this.
So very well deserved. Well done Peter for not giving up or in to the personal abuse you have received from Rahmans crew.
Biggs take note and put Peter in charge of looking into corruption which has been going on for years.
Whatever your politics you have to admire his commitment to Tower Hamlets. Would make a worthy Speaker and would bring back the creditability to Tower Hamlets
Irish Girl. Sure you’ve taken the words out of my mouth! Peter Golds would be an excellent chair of Oversight and Scrutiny. Not just because of his obvious qualities but also because he would be pro active and not just wait until something came across his table.
His appointment to that position would also signal and end to left/right polarity in local government just as it is becoming increasingly irrelevant nationally. Local government is about efficient administration and delivering value for money to the shareholders, the council tax payers in this case.
It’s not about grand ” visions ” with all of the visionaries on wacking great salaries a la the GLA under Livingstone. Remember him? Whatever did become of him? Does anyone know?
Recently seen on television looking very old and saying that John Biggs is a good chap because he wasn’t caught up in the infighting within the Labour party back in the day.
=> Dave Roberts
Agreed about appointing Peter Golds as scrutiny chairman.
What none of you “experts” seem to know is, in English local government, councils can have a maximum of FOUR scrutiny committees
Who should head the other 3 scrutiny committees ? With 4 on the go, the Tower Hamlets clean-up would make very rapid progress.
I’m surprised, but never-the-less delighted, you are supporting the Tories (well an excellent one) 😉
Curious Cat
I doubt if you could find a more deserving councillor in LBTH.
Well done Peter. You have worked tirelessly for this borough, often having to deal with horrendous personal abuse from those cretins at THF.
Regardless of political persuasion, I doubt if anyone could argue that.
Spikey dearest, bitterness isn’t a good look. Tidy your flat, empty your beer can ashtrays and put them in the bin, open the windows to let the stale smoke waft away, stub out your roll up, dust yourself down, and try to put something back into the community. Rather than wallowing in self pity and envy at others’ success. It’s not too late for you…..
Out with anger, in with love. 😘😘😘😘
Love your admonishment to the awful Spikey! 🙂
I think we all ought to ignore the Troll having a Tantrum. One day he will grow up and learn how to behave in the real world.
It’s funny, I’ve been quite critical on here. But I really do speak as a find.
If I didn’t know, then I’d research reliable sources, or keep quiet.
In the distant past, I’ve voted for people I’ve heavily criticised over recent years. I’m embarrassed to say, I voted Galloway to boot out Oona King, more to do with how she treated my Grandmother when she was in housing. I’ve even voted Livingstone, though it was for the first London Mayor, and he wasn’t Labour at the time. I was young then, now I’m older and perhaps more aware. I soon realised the error of my ways…..Now, i’d not pee in them if on fire, and I needed to go!
As per my post above, and to concur with others’ on here, I hold Peter in such high regard due to his actions, not his party. If he were to start to behave like other councillors, then I’d be the first to criticise. Though, let’s face it, he had a very good track record and that’s as likely as Lutfur showing remorse and apologising for the years of crap we endured.
Trots grow up! You’re havin a larf geezer! People who run their lives according to what Trotsky said to Lenin whenever are sad, really sad. What I find with them is that now everything has collapsed from the Soviet Union to Respect they realise they have wasted the best years of their lives.
Are we seeing the beginnings of a Love made on this blog, between you and Spikey ?
Will we get wedding invitations, please ?
CC.
Who’s that aimed at?
Like the majority on here, I think Spikey is another moronic trot.
The Grim Reaper on June 13, 2015 at 9:19 am
https://trialbyjeory.com/2015/06/12/peter-golds-made-a-cbe-in-queens-birthday-honours-list/#comment-26610
🙂
Though I’d happily buy some ketchup for the chip on his shoulder.
That’s the kind of generous spirited person I am!
I can that see the sarcastic sentiment wasn’t lost.
I hope Spikey doesn’t get all end of term disco on me!
If I hear Bonnie Tyler, I shall bolt.
Congratulations Peter on being honoured as a Commander of the Most Excellent Order of the British Empire – you and Sir Eric were both steadfast warriors in the war against the political filth that did such harm to our society.
At times the pressure and the threats must have almost been too much. It’s good your efforts have been acknowledged. Well done and THANK YOU
I was just thinking if Peter Golds was made Speaker he could turf out of the Council Chamber all those whose behaviour and language failed to meet proper standards of conduct.
That might be a just reward given the appalling way people have behaved towards him in the Chamber – and been allowed to get away with it. (Shame on those who failed to act!)
However I’d still rather see him in charge of Oversight and Scrutiny first – and then Speaker later in this Administration
I agree – Peter Golds should be speaker
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/journalists/andrew-gilligan/ for the take by the man who started the whole thing off nearly five years ago. Pride of place in the rogues gallery goes to Dave Hill of Al Grauniad for years of downright barefaced lies, Ken Livingstone for losing Labour the last two Tower Hamlets mayoral elections and the execrable Giles £2000 Fraser.
It seems that Livingstone is backing Sadiq Khan for the Labour nomination for Mayor of London. Oh well, another election lost then!
I didn’t agree with Peter Golds on many things but the undeniable truth is he fought for what he believed was right and didn’t give up. For that he deserves the recognition, well done to the man.
I hope he and others continue to hold the new administration to the same level of scrutiny as the previous and the media circus move on.
Tower Hamlets is an amazing place, let’s hope next time we are one the news it’s for our GCSE results and not for the f***** election.
I have never agreed with these symbols and honours systems, they just are remnants of an outdated feudal system of patronage that one day this country will forget like many other modern countries see as an irrelevance.
I myself refused the offer of the freedom of the city of london and would never take these honours or for that a knighthood or peerage.
I’m quite content and happy with name on my birth certificate.
I think the fact that I never knew of Peter’s OBE is testament to his humility. How many people add it to their names?
I vaguely remember a few years ago that Lutfur was fishing for a knighthood. Could you amagine how that would’ve been banded around?
Thank god he didn’t get his way. The Royals must be total phobes, innit!
anyone can buy the freedom of the city of london for a tenner. I don’t think your ever going to be in a position to be able to refuse an honour somehow
Working mum
As this site is about annonomity for most contributors you don’t know me or what I’ve done or what positions I’ve been elected to, as I don’t know you. But your welcome to to try and buy one for a tenner, you might pick it up on Ebay or have it awarded to you for being a hard working mum.
I’m just a hard working dad though.
Hear hear Shadow.
🙂
Still can’t find anyone willing to sell their Freedom of the City of London.
How well do you know your friend “Anyone” ? Can he or she get me a couple of ‘Freedom of the City of London’ for twenty quid ?
Thanks.
CC.
Seen this? Its beyond parody
The woman speaking first, Lindsey German, was influential in dumping women’s and gay rights from the SWP’s programmes when Respect was formed in order to get Muslim support. She is a complete and utter piece of shit without any remedial features whatsoever.
She speaks highly of you too!
1. Rahman has
2. Rahman said:
Then they should all be kicked-out together as a team.
3. Judgement
529.
The Petitioners’ case may be summarised as follows. In formulating his campaign, Mr Rahman, as well as playing the race card, was determined to play the religious card. The campaign would be targeted at Tower Hamlets’ Muslim population with a stark message:
‘Islam is under threat: it is the religious duty of all devout Muslims to vote for Mr Rahman and his party.’
http://law.slough.info/law46/law46p057.php
4. Rabina’s 3,500 casework total for 4 years.
As a former hardworking and meeting attending local government councillor, I did just over 560 caseworks a year, every year, and I had virtually no time left for anything else – not even for being or the male equivalent.
Rabina’s 3,500 case works for 4 years = 875 per year = 16.83 case works a week, 52 weeks a year = Guinness Book of Records or simple delusions ?
* I do hope Rabina’s election expenses – available for the public to see and take copies – will include the posters in the video 😉
Curious Cat.
It’s easy to put you name to casework that you’ve only rubber stamped, when you’ve a small army of support staff in the Mayor’s office to do the donkey work. You just have to turn up at the odd meeting, feign concern and then pass on your notes.
There are also the small army of unpaid volunteers who are on standby to assist at your surgeries and other ‘official engagements’.
I wonder how many people thought they were dealing with official Lbth staff, when they could’ve been anyone?
Let’s face it, it’s not like you vet council candidates at THF. Just look at that charming Nazi worshipping fool Ahad Miah?
Don’t forget the thousands of affordable homes that have been built and are planned as well as the thousands of sustainable jobs and apprenticeships.
Hopefully the source of these mbers enquiries (the casework sic) will become apparent as the questions raised by lovewapping about “bogus” canvassers are answered.
I could only get half way through, it was that vomit enduring. A more deluded group you will rarely come across.
Thank goodness they didn’t get back into power.
However, it really does highlight the importance of completing full and conclusive criminal investigations and punish accordingly, if only to shut these idiots up, and show them that the law is above the colour of their skin.
Inshallah!
shaddowonthehorizon
What were you? A milk monitor in school?
Working mum
Yes I was actually, that meant I got my milk and essential nutrients for brain development and it shows.
Unlike yourself where your thought level can only generate feeble insults in posting a comment rather than assessing other differing comments and views as an individuals right to state their opposing views and opinions to outdated systems
Silly comment. All of us are supposed to be adults, even the loony ones.
I remember the 1/3 pint of fresh creamy milk supplied in glass bottles.
School Prefect 🙂
Curious Cat
Your probably right I should make allowances for those who are intellectually challenged in their thinking and comments.
It was an innocent mistake Shaddow. Fancy thinking everyone has a similar quantity of functioning brain cells. 😉
Now that Rabina Khan is a backbench councillor and a corruptly elected one at that can someone flag her Wikipedia page for deletion?
Why not update Rabina’s Wikipedia page yourself ?
How do you update peoples Wiki pages?
1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rabina_Khan
2. Observe and wonder at
The neutrality of this article is disputed. Relevant discussion may be found on the talk page. Please do not remove this message until the dispute is resolved. (May 2015)
3. Get a stack of sick bags …..
4. Then browse through everything …..
5. Log-on to Wikipedia or create a new identity
6. Edit existing text or insert new text.
🙂
Yes, definitely a milk monitor. It is not an outdated system, people who do good should be recognised and the system will continue even with the naysayers like you who do down those that achieve.
Dear Working Mum,
Are you genuinely naïve as your above posting suggests?
As you walk along any road past people you do not know and amid the strangers, there are likely to be people who saved others lives, people who risked their own lives to do good or to protect this country, people who have devoted their lives to helping others etc. etc. etc.
Take Peter Golds CBE as a good example. He never proclaimed his OBE. He was content for others to judge him by his own deeds rather than some out-of-date honours system operated by the UK government’s Cabinet Office which usually awards honours as favours to members of the establishment, in thanks for political donations to party funds, rejected politicians (Eric Pickles for example).
Genuinely deserving members of the public get a few of these crumbs, predominantly at the bottom end of grandeur. Armed forces personal get some too but based on real merit and achievement.
The non-military part of the UK Honours system is questionable especially when, Peter Golds being an exception, so many awards are giving to councillors simply because their own political party has nominated them, same too the council bosses previously involved in fraud and sleaze (at least one got a gong this time).
You don’t know Shadow’s achievements, so always be careful whom you deride. Achievers very rarely publicise their achievements.
Have a happy and enjoyable evening 🙂
Curious Cat
Re the Telegraph/Gilligan article – the correct link is this one (ie the previous one will update as and when Gilligan writes new articles as it is specific to him not the article)
Tower Hamlets, Britain’s worst political slum, has just rejoined the democratic world
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/general-election-2015/politics-blog/11669975/Tower-Hamlets-Britains-worst-political-slum-has-just-rejoined-the-democratic-world.html
I feel sure a letter from Peter Golds and/or one or more of his supporters will be winging its way to the Editor of the Evening Standard in the very near future – if it has not already been sent
The reason?
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/birthday-honours-list-stephen-lawrence-murder-witness-duwayne-brooks-and-met-officers-among-londoners-given-awards-10317756.html
5th Paragraph
The Photograph of Peter Golds bears the following caption
Pitiful!
I hope the Editor of the Evening Standard advises reporter Ramzy Alwakeel of the need to spell all the names correctly and the very important need to cite all the honours correctly in ANY article and ANYBODY who is honoured – especially when the honour is a CBE which is not an honour that gets given to just anybody.
Grace and favour is in the main not about the good you do, its who and what connections you have got in the establishment and system who run the selection and process of granting them.
And deserving members of the public, because there are so many of then, are ignored with a few crumbs going to a tiny few.
Meanwhile lots, at the top end of patronage, are handed-out like sweets usually to those whose ‘achievements’ are immensely questionable in substance, existence and in reality.
Curious Cat
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/sir-henry-angest-banker-who-gave-tories-millions-is-knighted-in-reward-for-political-service-10317231.html
for example
My congratulations, he’s always been very constructive and put up with a great deal.
shaddowonthehorizon
Tell us what you achieved to turn down a gong? methinks you really really want one it hurts
No need to publicise one’s achievements; that only makes obnoxious Big Heads.
Whatever Shadow did is his personal achievement of which he can be justifiably proud. Why do you think Shadow needs your ‘seal of approval’ ? Who are you to judge others ?
Curious Cat.
The pair of you sound bitter you don’t have a gong yourselves
If offered, I would never accept any Gong. I would accept a reward for bravery though or a non-gong award for services to my country.
I’ll pass this onto the cabinet office for you. Its good to know
Which part ?
All of it by the sound. The problem with any award for bravery in this country comes with the word royal, as far as I know, so you are always back to square one.
Working mum of any number
Curious Cat has quite reasonably set out the rational of what his views are on the current honours system, which I am in agreement with. The current system is corrupted in that a lot of awards are given not for good works as most people would view and normally judge them, but are seen as a perk given by political parties etc. for some really dubious reasons.
CCat is right you dont now what others have done and yes I am not going to crow about my own achievements here as I have plenty to be pleased about for making this area a better place for all to live in. That’s why I sought to be elected and as a councillor, to work hard and improve a better things l fought could be changed and improved to benefit all of us who live and work in tower hamlets. I did not do it for honours, I did it as I wanted a better tower hamlets, which I know Peter Golds and many councillors is their driving force for becoming councillors in the first place.
Some elected members do not, as we have seen, have this as their basis for being elected and have other agendas or just become power crazed or corrupted. The worst of these being Mr Galloway and Mr Rahman as tower hamlets examples.
Hard working dad of 4
It’s been three days and Tower Hamlets is still celebrating the utter ruin of Lutfur Rahman and his band of criminal cronies!!!
Hoorah
The sky seems bluer, the sun shine brighter, the air smells sweeter, birds sing in the trees…….
It’s like political Prozac for the masses!
I’m guessing that this isn’t the case at THF, or The East London IFE HQ. No doubt there will be a storm cloud just above, raining and sending lightning bolts onto their ramshackle roof tiles, while they plot their revenge. I can just see them now, like some deluded villains in a budget Bond pastiche. With George Galloway barking orders at his moronic minions….not sure to to spell overly articulated Dr Evil style villain laughter….Mwaaaah, ahhhhhh, Mwaaaah ahhhhhh. You wait till I get my revenge you pesky electorate infidels! Oh you get my drift!
Just for the record and so nobody is misled by some of the outdated and utter twaddle in the comments about the honours system on this page, the Honours system is much more open than suggested
FACT: The system has become a lot more open and a lot fairer in recent years.
For those interested I suggest you read this page https://www.gov.uk/honours/overview
https://www.gov.uk/honours/types-of-honours-and-awards
This is guidance on how to wrote a nomination https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/245406/How_to_write_a_nomination.pdf
These are the forms you need to use
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/nominate-someone-for-a-uk-national-honour
I suggest you note that:
* ANYONE can nominate anyone for an honour – so long as they are still actively involved in what you are nominating them for
* it’s not all political and “who you know” – far from it in reality!
* communities regularly nominate people who mean a lot to them – and those awards are made
Of course there’s an involvement of government officials and politicians at one level. That’s because we’re living in the real world. Also because some honours are purely done by Politicians e.g. a Prime Minister’s Resignation Honours list
I’ve known a lot of local government staff – at every level – who have been extraordinarily pleased to have their contributions to public life recognised and rewarded
I’m certainly not going to knock a system – and by implication all the awards made to people in the past for their achievements – simply because it isn’t the last word in perfection.
It is after all a great deal better than some awards systems we’ve come across – such as those used to make grants in the last administration!
Thanks for this YCMIU, I was just about to look into this myself. I think more people should be nominated for honours for their bravery, commitment to justice and democracy and sheer stamina in this long and dirty fight to restore democracy in Tower Hamlets.
We probably should not discuss their names in public domain, since as the nomination form rightly points out: ‘The nominee should not be told that they have been nominated, as it is not fair to raise their expectations.’
Perhaps a closed Twitter group could provide a forum for discussion?
YCMIU
In this your correct in the main.
It has been improved mainly due to the outcries from high level cases i.e. Archer,Maxwell, Lord Black, that also brought their honours into question, with public nominations brought in to prop up the perceived corrupt system.
As you point out it still has a lot of failings, but I suppose you can only polish a turd to a point, it will never become gold.
My opinion is stated, I don’t agree with it, but others have opposite view points, which is their right.
I only wish those who comment can do so on the issue and with some understanding of the issues and debate being raised. Maybe I’m being over optomistic on the later point though.
The cases you mention are YEARS old!
Of course not everybody agrees with the system. There again I guess there are always going to be some people who will think that nobody who gives over and above of their expected skill level or status or remuneration level should ever be rewarded for anything – from kids starting out with reading or the Brownies and Cubs on up.
BTW – spelling! It’s “you’re” as in “you are” not “your”!
Next time you find any system which is 100% quality assured and completely foolproof I’m sure we’d all love to hear about it.
YCMIU
Yes these are old headline cases but do want me to list all of them. Also the changes that were made to the old honours system took years to be introduced and still the under the revised system the nonsense grace and favour dubious awards continue.
In regard to your second point no problem with that principle as long as recognition is given under a level playing field and honours and awards are not used as a reason not to pay a person for their additional work and effort in the first place.
Given the time the revision to the previous system took I would have expected them to close up the ability for nonsense awards to undeserving individuals.
I am sure a better system can be devised and if given the task I could easily produce one but then again some of these awards are granted as gifts to some and so the system will never be fair in practice because of this.
Thanks for the tip on the use of spelling just me using a smart phone and being lazy
=> Couldn;t
I guess there are always going to be some people who will think that nobody who gives over and above of their expected skill level or status or remuneration level should ever be rewarded for anything – from kids starting out with reading or the Brownies and Cubs on up.
BUT but what about those whose efforts never ever rose above the norm – why should they get gongs ?
Curious Cat
Couldn’t wrote:
FACT: The system has become a lot more open and a lot fairer in recent years.
So lets analyse the content of his claim;
(1) When did ‘recent years’ start ?
(2) What does ‘more open’ mean and what is he comparing the alleged openness with ?
(a) The system is, and still is, opaque. Opaque is definitely not transparent however much Couldn’t wishes to pull the metaphorical wool over everyone’s eyes.
(b) It is impossible to discover, for example, precisely what “services to local government” consists of, what the gong recipient actually did to deserve the gong, who (often falsely) prepared the ‘evidence’ in support of the awarding of the discredited gong etc. etc.
(c) Perhaps Couldn’t forgot to mention that if the system is closed, 100% shut, then a mere tiny opening, say 1% which then leaves the system 99% closed, is truly “more open”.
(d) No definition of “more”.
(e) Just like a dubious politician, Couldnt’s statement is devoid of verifiable facts.
(3) What does “a lot fairer” actually mean ?
(a) I suggest it means than instead of giving one school dinner lady who was worked at the same school for 40 years a very minor gong (MBE) the English government has, this year, given 3 dinner ladies the MBE.
(b) Couldn’t did not publish comparisons for us to determine whether giving Tory Millionaires a very heavy-weight gong ‘cos they gave millions to the Tories is fair – and, if it is, how does that alleged fairness compare to the ordinary deserving members of the public who got nothing ?
Honestly and full transparency seems to be missing. I wonder why ?
Curious Cat.
shaddowonthehorizon
waffle waffle waffle ‘I didn’t get elected or get a gong so the system sucks’
yeah right
Working mum of any number
Your lack of ability to read what comments have been posted is a joke, not that it should surprise me in your limited mind and capability.
So to help you
Yes I was elected as a councillor on TH Council.
Yes I did chair a number of Committees over my term.
No I would never accept any honours even though this being offered to me as detailed previously as I don’t agree with them personally.
I would not presume to suggest you could not gain elected office or be awarded a gong, after all THF councillors got elected so there is hope for yourself.
Pitiful!
Maybe but true, it always hurts
=> Working Mum,
Rubbish.
One can be honest regardless of whether one has gongs or no gong.
Even those awarded non-military gongs privately admit the so-called UK Honours System favours many more undeserving recipients than genuinely deserving ones.
Reasons for giving gongs are often manufactured distortions of reality. It cheapens our country’s reputation and image. It often ridicules the concept of ‘Honour’.
By the way, young lady, England (which rules Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland) has not had an empire for nearly a hundred years. When England did, England murdered, raped, tortured, exploited, enslaved and treated fellow Human Beings like dirt. Honouring someone with that offensive history is not exactly a glory many decent people would appreciate.
And, by the way, when one thinks of Nazi concentration camps, never ever forget that England invented the concentration camp in South Africa during the English war against the farmers (in Dutch: boeren; known to the English as Boers). What a marvellous British Empire to continue to worship.
I favour the Order of England for (genuine) services to the community and country. Political parties and their chums banned by law from accepting, influencing and giving.
Curious Cat.
=> Working Mum,
If one needs any concrete proof that not everyone awarded a GONG, or multiple GONGS, is a suitable recipient, may I suggest you consider the case of
Sir James Wilson Vincent Savile, OBE, KCSG
Curious Cat
Your forgot he was also a Freeman of the Borough of Scarborough
Ted any chance on a new post covering John Biggs appearance on todays Sunday Politics?
I didn’t see it
What was the thrust?
General issues on election run up result and how he was committed to rebuilding trust blah blah. However when the interviewer questioned him on some issues in particular what caused him to be rejected by labour group after 1 year in as leader he did squirm and be very evasive to say the least
So boring and ancient history. Why would you want a post on that?
Jimmy Saville does not prove that the system of awarding honors is wrong. He was given his honours for his charity work. Despite the rumours surrounding him when he was alive, unless you were one of his many victims, people just did not know if he was/was not a paedo. Sadly the truth came out after he died. Not the fault of the Cabinet Office.
However how exaclty Lenny Henry deserves a knighthood is anyone’s guess
Maybe because he’s good for giving all of us a real laugh sometimes.
I always thought there was something ‘strange’ about Jimmy Saville.
I could not articulate my concerns.
Strangely, I had similar inexplicable concerns about Grenville Janner.
Trusting one’s instincts is probably wise.
CC.
He’s about as funny as cancer
Golds had his OBE before he tried to strangle one of his fellow Brent Councillors folloiwng an argument. That seems to have done him no harm in now being up-graded to a CBE unless that’s what’s meant by services to local government.
Be careful Jay Kay thats libelous
It’s not it’s a fact.
Says Ken Livingstone who himself knows it not to be true; he is however protected by parliamentary privilege. You’re not
It can be read it here:
http://www.parliament.uk/edm/1997-98/375
Then present it, in a non-defamatory manner, for example:-
Ken Livingston MP said in parliament Cllr Golds ……………………………………….
How refreshing and informative if this is correct on Cllr Golds flexing his muscles in the council chamber. Oh the rough and tumble of the council chamber, I do miss it a times. Haha
Is this the start of “Golds Gate” ???
Maybe Peter will give us a blow by blow account to set the record straight if its untrue.
Gosh what an awful lot of bitchy gossiping and self-indulgent sniping!
There’s a word for people who’ve got nothing better to do all day long…..
To Ted re Biggs on the Politics Show: Biggs was on with Ken livingstone. For me interesting that Biggs had set himself a target of October (2015 that is) for departure of the Commissioners. I wondered if he has grasped the enormity of the task to clean out the Aegean Stables – most people in the know would want to have the Commissioners there.
A post on Mayor Biggs’ first week in office week end would be good Ted. I’m sure we won’t be disappointed.
October 2015 is a significant date because it’s the date up to which Pickles conferred additional powers on the commissioners, with an option to end earlier.
See here: https://www.gov.uk/government/news/further-intervention-in-london-borough-of-tower-hamlets
Jay Kay – I think john meant exit of all 4 Commissioners – didn’t the original directions appoint the 1st two up to 2017?
I think you will find that the documents dated 6th May is also relevant https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/additional-directions-to-the-council-of-the-london-borough-of-tower-hamlets-and-related-documents
and
Click to access 2__Further_Directions_to_the_council_of_the_London_Borough_of_Tower_Hamlets_issued_6_May_15.pdf
This document states
In other words, the priority for John Biggs is getting the three statutory officers into post.
So far as I am aware they’ve made appointments to two (Director of Finance and the Monitoring Officer) but an appointment to the Head of Paid Service/CEO post is still outstanding – can anybody confirm?
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