Anjem Choudary, the brains behind the chain of Yummy Yummy sweet shops in Tower Hamlets (and a charming hate preacher to boot) is calling on his little groupies to march in Brick Lane at 2pm today.
His target is alcohol, which he apparently used to love in great quantities while Andy Choudary the student at Southampton University.
His message could be that if you drink loads of booze, you’ll turn out like him. And that surely would be a good warning.
But he’s not saying that. He’s saying alcohol is an abomination os Satan and if you “leave it, you can be successful”. Er, just like him.
Having had many of his predecessor groups such as Al Muhajiroun and Islam4UK banned by the Home Secretary, another website called the Shariah Project has popped up.
And that’s where we can see his latest threatening leaflet, which might well have been distributed in Brick Lane (i don’t know if it has) where the intention is to intimidate the many Bengali curry restaurant workers from selling booze. It’s the Muslim Patrol v2.
They purport to be “legal notices from the Department of Regulation at Tower Hamlets Council”. But they’re clearly fake because any fool knows Tower Hamlets council doesn’t do regulation.
Department ofBusiness Regulation
Tower Hamlets
RE: YOUR LICENCE TO SELL ALCOHOL HAS BEEN REVOKED – DO NOT IGNORE THIS LETTER
Dear Business Owner
This letter is legal notice that you have no legal permission to sell, serve or stock alcohol atyour premises. If you are still stocking, serving or selling any alcoholic products beverages, you must cease immediately.
Failure to comply with this notice to cease trading in alcoholic products is illegal and you will be liable to severe penalties as will be explained in this letter. Please note that you have noright to appeal this decision and you cannot apply for any further licences to serve alcohol on these premises or any other businesses you are associated with.
You have been formally warned that you are breaking the Prohibition of the sale of alcohol law chapter 4, sect. 90 of the Quran, which states: “Alcohol, gambling, divination of arrowsare only abominations of satan, so leave it so that you can be successful.” And in thetradition of Muhammad recorded in Abu Dawood v.4 p.207, “Whenever Allah has prohibiteda thing, it is prohibited to benefit from it or its outcome.” And in Musnad Ahmed, “Verily if Allah has prohibited for people the consumption of a thing, He also has prohibited its sale.” And in Tirmidhi No.2776, Anas ibn Malik narrated that “Allah’s Messenger cursed ten peoplein connection with alcohol: the presser, the one who has it pressed, the one who drinks it,the one who conveys it, the one to whom it is conveyed, the one who serves it, the one whosells it, the one who benefits from the price paid for it, the one who buys it, and the one forwhom it is bought.”
The penalty for failing to cease drinking, serving or selling alcohol includes the curse of Allah, punishment by hellfire in the afterlife and if found guilty in a shariah court following theestablishment of the upcoming Islamic state you could be liable to forty lashes publically.
DO NOT IGNORE THIS LETTER
If you have any questions regarding this notice or if you would like more information aboutwhat to do next, please visit http://www.iqaamah.co.uk/legalnotice/ or you can contact us by phone on 07956041034. For further information in Bengali contact 07939349760
The thing is, I agree with him. I think anyone buying booze from Brick Lane’s curry houses deserves to go to hell fire. I mean,you never know what they’re serving. Remember this?
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Islamist thuggery is OK then?
Puedes explicarnos?
Who is the bigger idiot; the one who writes such a childish missive or the one who takes it seriously? I’d expect more from a Southampton graduate, although the fact that he was permanently Brahms and Liszt (and stoned, and bedding as many kuffar women as possible by all accounts) may explain Andy’s rather poor academic abilities.
Tim.
Point of information: I understand that the Yummy sweet shop on Mile End Road (the premises was formerly a public house) is closing down. Perhaps that leaves time for other activities…
Which pub was that Local resident?
What are the council and the police doing about these notices?
Curious Cat.
Internet domain iqaamah.co.uk
was registered to Abu Baraa on 02-Oct-2013.
http://www.iqaamah.co.uk/category/al-iqaamah/
Golly what a shame. I love a G&T with my Brick Lane curry 😦
Gambling? Probably means the TH election results. So uncertain they can not be predicted. Voting is evil because it makes people’s lives so uncertain.
We are told by politicians of all stripes that laws exist to curb threatening behaviour such as this. Time for UK citizenry to pressure their MPs to get those laws applied?
Madmullah: The pub was the Hayfield (and then a Scream) before it bacame a restaurant with sweet shop attached. There are offcie behind which used to be used by the brewery for training. Don’t know what they are being used for now.
Ok Local resident, I know where you are now. I couldn’t understand why someone spent so much money converting a building to an up market restaurant that obviously wasn’t going to make money. I don’t know if the restaurant is still open but I will have a look tomorrow.
Where is the UAF when these fascists intimidate people?
The UAF, Grave Maurice, are a tiny group of non entities whose former leader Martin Smith stands accused by women members of the SWP of rape, several times over. As with the ANL back in the seventies it was always an SWP front group whose main task was to recruit people to the party through supposed anti fascist campaigns.
It is now just a web site with grandiose claims of hundreds of people turning up to mass meetings without any photos to prove it. It can probably muster a dozen students for a demo and relies on local worthies like the Rev Allen Green of Bethnal fame to make stern denunciations of The EDL and sign a letter to the Guardian.
I remember a couple of years ago going to watch a demo of theirs on the Whitechapel Road which consisted of every SWP member that could be mustered around the south east plus a few worthies like the Rev Green marching between Vallance Road and Altab Ali Park shouting ” They Shall Not Pass” at the EDL who were in fact getting drunk at Wetherspoons at Liverpool Street Station.
The implosion of the SWP with more than thee quarters of the membership either leaving or being expelled in the last year has totally gutted all of the SWP fronts such as Stop the War and a half dozen others that seem to come and go with relentless monotony.
One thing the Labour Party should be aware of is that there are now thousands of homeless far lefties looking for a home and that is going to be Labour. Be careful or all that hard work of becoming an electable social democratic party will be straight out the window.
Nice and enjoyable prose 🙂
Always try and avoid using nice as an adjective Curious Cat, but if your reference is to my prose style , thank you.
I’ve never sat any formal language examination in my life; no English lessons after 16.
Your nicely written prose was enjoyable to read Ms/Mr Mullah.
🙂
Curious Cat.
I’m not understanding why exactly this leafleting is annoying some people or why indeed it is a story? I get pizza leaflets and political leaflets and other causes people believe in and like to promote. Mostly I chuck it in the recycling bin whilst a cursory thought passes through my head about the trees that died. Then I carry on with my life. I wouldn’t think this was anything to write about. I bet Anjem Choudhury is delighted his leaflet is getting so much publicity. All I’m thinking is “at least no trees were killed in the reprinting of this leaflet.”
Anyway when was the last time you read a leaflet and had an epiphany? Stop placing so much value on the mundane. People are dying from starvation etc.
=> Shumi wrote:-
The Forbidden to Sell Alcohol notice is nothing like a Pizza advertisement, is it ? Who are you trying to fool ?
That notice is like a Fundamentalist (meaning extremist) diktat reminiscent of the same extremism experienced daily in Afghanistan, Pakistani, Nigeria, Indonesia etc.
Normal people don’t want another extremists branch operating in the borough.
Our society works best with mutual tolerance. We don’t shot school girls, we don’t throw acid into the faces of women, we don’t stone women either. If the notice promoters want to catch the next plane out-of-Europe on a one way trip, I’m sure the public would fund their tickets.
Are these Fundamentalists walking around London in possession of British passports ?
Curious Cat
I’m not sure where in the leaflet you see school girls being shot condoned etc. Let me explain it better, if a Christian fundamentalist leaflet was sent out saying the only way to salvation was Christ and a BNP leaflet saying immigrants are taking over then I still wouldn’t write an article about it. The beauty of a free country is people are free to talk about their views without the threat of being demonised etc. I don’t agree with extremist views and so long as they are not propagating hatred I am totally not seeing what the problem is.
I can’t believe people are actually taking this leaflet seriously! The only reaction to such garbage should be mirth. People who are insecure about themselves tend to take everything too seriously. Chill, Britain is not going to be turned into an Islamic state, only 0.0001% of the 2% of Muslim population want that.
There is a serious side to it though…restaurateurs on Brick Lane were certainly worried on Friday. Anjem argued over the loudspeaker they were hypocrites for returning from Friday prayers to then sell alcohol.
The restaurateurs argued they’re just trying to make a living.
But they worried about the wider view in the community. What’s yours?
Violence and discrimination against women happens the world over. No one society can say that it doesn’t happen other than matriarchal tribes in South Asia such as the Chakma in Bangladesh. Acid throwing happens in the UK too. This is a separate and serious issue, one that should always be at the top of every agenda. It has been proven the best investment in development is in women and girls education where the benefits are four folds. It is one of the millennium development goals but sadly it doesn’t look like they will be achieving that. Personally I think the problem is compounded when women are not in positions of decision making and that is why it is so important to get gender balance in the houses of Parliaments and the Councils in the UK.
My view on this matter is Ted, it is up to an individual how they worship God or follow religion, personally I have my own life to deal with and I don’t particularly want to tell other people to be better Muslims. From my perspective if people are not harmed and laws of the land are not broken, each to their own. But I do know some Muslims who prefer a more active approach to dawah.
Islam does say that selling alcohol is wrong, if one Muslim wants to remind another Muslim of that fact I’m not sure why it’s other people’s business. So long as they are not violent and threatening in their approach not sure what exactly the problem is?
Christian priests and Muslim Imams marched against the banks for benefiting from usury. People are allowed to put across their opinions in a peaceful manner, regardless of whether I approve of it or not. I don’t particularly care about many things, only stuff that causes human suffering. Religion I leave to other people to deal with it’s not one of my particular passions.
Curious Cat I am concerned by your use of “we” when you say
“We don’t shot school girls, we don’t throw acid into the faces of women, we don’t stone women either.”
Who is “we” here and who is the “other” that frightens you so much? Have Christian men never been violent, controlling and discriminatory against women? and do all Muslim men condone the behaviour that you describe?
People like you make me worry when I go out of the house.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2522422/Indian-government-doing-stop-acid-attacks-women-say-victims-believe-new-law-ignored.html
Look Curious Cat some Hindus do it too, they also rape, does that make all Hindus bad?
=> Shumi
‘WE’ means the people of this country and other countries around the world who embrace fairness, respect, tolerance (but not of extremists) and decency.
Curious Cat
=> Shumi
I saw another extremely distressing example on BBC 1 last night. It was a 14 year old girl in rural India who allegedly ignore some boys at school so they poured acid over her. It made the interviewer cry. It was very upsetting to see.
The acid pourers backward semi-literate attitude is little different from those who try to coerce others as recently seen with the ‘no alcohol’ leaflet.
You should be encouraging good and civilised behaviour not routinely accepting it. Mutual respect and mutual tolerance are virtues, not vices as you appear to infer by your questionable support for the ‘no alcohol’ leaflets.
Curious Cat
Shumi wrote:-
More than 5% of the British population now.
But he’s not just limiting his comments to the notion that Muslims should not sell alcohol is he?
He’s also threatening people with 40 lashes.
Let’s be very clear about this – in the UK anybody trying to exact that sort of penalty would face a charge of grievous bodily harm irrespective of who they are. Nobody would be exempt.
Anybody threatening people with that sort of repercussion is very probably also committing an offence.
Why not read http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/anjem-choudary-warns-muslim-restaurateurs-they-face-being-flogged-if-they-sell-booze-at-brick-lane-rally-9007511.html to understand the other reasons exactly why people are concerned about this chap?
Can I also remind you that it’s a free country and there are all sorts of people who describe themselves as being of one religion or another. I doubt very many of them are absolutely and totally strict about their observance of all the religious “laws”. Obviously this chap was one of them according to what Ted said in his post.
The fact is in a free country people are entitled to do anything they like so long as they do not break the law of the land. It’s the only law that counts when it comes to penalties.
My personal view is that the appropriate place to preach about religious law is in a religious place – so long as it does not fly in the face of the law of the land.
Well if he is breaking the law then he will and should be punished accordingly.
When I get pizza leaflets, marketing material from others trying to sell me something or charity leaflets or political literature it doesn’t purport to be a legal notice from a local authority. Pizza Hut is not threatening me with licensing (or any other) penalties unless I take up their 2 for 1 offer. This leaflet is news because it purports to be from the council and threatens livelihoods. Okay, by the time you get halfway through it it becomes clear that not only is it not from the council, it is not even based on UK licensing law, but the damage will have been done.
The leaflet created alarm, fear and distress.
Who wants their family attacked because their commercial business sells alcohol?
Who wants violence, intimidation and worse because they failed to obey the edict in the leaflet?
These tactics are common in backward countries like India, Pakistan and in Bangladesh where citizens lack basic Human Rights, women and the poor have little or no rights and extremist semi-literate bullies and thugs attack others in the name of religion.
Whoever genuinely believes the leaflet was virtually identical if not actually identical to a standard Pizza advertisement should stop driving their car and pop into Spec-Savers for a new pair of glasses. Can anyone truly assert, in all honestly, that nasty leaflet purporting to come from the local government was about Pizzas or it was just a ‘harmless’ joke ?
Curious Cat.
Anjem Choudary, campaigning against alcohol when his brother runs the soon to be defunct, Yummy Yummy shops, one of which is located in former pub premises is somewhat ironic.
Further evidence of Ajem’s stupidity, if it was needed, and apart from his involvement in the production of fake leaflets, is that many donations to the East London Mosque are made from the proceeds of alcohol sales. Clearly he fails to realise the potential damage he has done to the Brick Lane economy and his own community who protested against him for fear of their incomes being harmed.
The leaflets are now being covered by the Evening Standard
http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/anjem-choudary-warns-muslim-restaurateurs-they-face-flogging-if-they-sell-booze-at-brick-lane-rally-9007511.html
[OPEN QUOTE FROM EVEING STANDARD]”Choudary, who formerly led the banned Al-Muhajiroun Islamist group said: “What we did is we posted a notice to the shop owners saying that under Sharia and under the Koran the sale of alcohol is prohibited and if one were to also drink alcohol, that would be 40 lashes.
“We were there to teach them that just because they are living among non-Muslims is no excuse because Sharia law will be implemented in Britain, and so they should be aware that just because it is not Sharia today, they can’t just do whatever they like.
“There will be no more pubs, no more gambling houses, no more national lottery.
“All women would have to be covered up appropriately and wear the niqab or veil and so there will be no prostitution. By 2050, Britain will be a majority Muslim country. “It will be the end of freedom of democracy and submission to God. We don’t believe in democracy, as soon as they have authority, Muslims should implement Sharia. This is what we’re trying to teach people.”[CLOSE QUOTE FROM EVENING STANDARD]”
I’m assuming the Evening Standard would not be irresponsible and that they have evidence he said this.
I personally find this type of attitude and behaviour to be of extreme concern – especially when it it is allowed to happen by the Mayor, the Council and the Police. I don’t regard it as any different in intent to that of the EDL and BNP. It’s just plain threatening and divisive and should be treated as such.
A demo of 60 extremists who do not represent the majority view of Muslim people in Tower Hamlets is being given way too much publicity in my opinion. I’m not sure why it merits so much attention? For me the worrying development here is some people making a quantum leap from a mad bunch of insignificant individuals to justification for stoning women and throwing acid on women’s faces and shooting school girls. To even suggest such a thing is so laughably ridiculous but then when I realise some people actually believe that this would happen because of a small demo by right wing individuals on an entirely different matter; then I fear for my own safety living amongst these paranoid Islamophobes.
Oh come now, this is not some harmless group: Anjem’s groupies have amassed a number of terror-related and intimidation convictions….more so than the EDL.
Why is it there is no UAF/IFE counter-demo to Anjem’s brand of fascism? Tell him he’s not welcome in Tower Hamlets.
I suspect he has much wider support for his underlying principles than many would admit. He certainly feels that’s the case.
I have never heard any Muslims support this guy, they consider him a buffoon. Many Muslims have spoken out against him. Certainly I think he is a bit insane. Possibly went overboard on religion as a compensation for his colourful past. Guilt does strange things to people.
People probably don’t consider him a threat, so don’t demonstrate against him. I am glad the police are dealing with him and his followers, I despise all people who think they are superior to others. They should be punished accordingly. They are a cancer to the fabric of society.
I’m not sure of the figures of convictions of either group so can’t comment. Perhaps if you supply some more details.
Ted is quite right to ask why there is no UAF counter-demo to stop the fascist Choudary from intimidating people and threatening people, but with respect, it is a little disingenuous. The reason why the UAF doesn’t demonstrate against Choudary is that they like Choudary. They like him because the UAF is made up of the SWP and the IFE. The SWP want to splinter British society and make it easier for them to stage their fantastical revolution. I suspect the IFE actually agree with Choudary (they both want Sharia Law in the UK and a global Caliphate) and appreciate the ground work he does. After all, the UAF, the IFE and the SWP are all “progressive” organisations which the rulers of Tower Hamlets believe should be endorsed as organisations they “should work with”…
As for the comparison between the “terror-related” convictions amassed by Choudary’s groupies and the EDL. This is an error. I don’t think the EDL have amassed any “terror-related” convictions whatsoever.
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
What he has said is WRONG. What he is doing is WRONG.
So when are the majority of good Muslims going to say this too?
Let me be clear, I’d say exactly the same about anybody who was making similarly divisive comments about Muslims.
To tolerate people who promote division and threaten communities is WRONG – irrespective of religion or political persuasion.
So why Shumi do you belittle those that stand up to this sort of bullying behaviour?
The majority of Muslims do think he is a moron. not sure why you think he is some sort of Muslim icon.
I wholeheartedly endorse the sentiments of Mr You.
I don’t think he is any sort of Muslim icon. Quite the contrary.
I agree with “the majority of muslims” – he gives every appearance of being a complete moron. However let’s be very clear his poster indicates he is also a bully who hopefully has had a very long and boring time sat in a police station being interviewed by the police responding to questions about the threats being made (and if he wasn’t I’d like to know why not!).
Just as I would hope the Police respond appropriately to any other person of any religion, party, persuasion – who came into this borough with any sort of poster which makes nasty threats to people living/working within the law. Particularly if in that poster they also try to make out that what they are posting is official and produced by the Council.
Such behaviour is completely unacceptable from any party, anybody at any time. Period.
I’m just very surprised we haven’t heard a clear statement on the matter being expressed by the Mayor and those at Clove Crescent given the misrepresentation relating to the Council.
YOU still haven’t answered the question Shumi.
Why do YOU belittle those that highlight bullying behaviour and why do you suggest it’s no big deal.
Do you not think it’s right to stand up to bullies?
Do you think it’s OK to let men like this get away with this sort of behaviour – in a civilised society?
I never said I was condoning his behaviour, I said the publicity for his ridiculous antics is disproportionate.
What you actually said – which prompted comment on your comments – was as follows
SHUMI SAID
” I’m not understanding why exactly this leafleting is annoying some people or why indeed it is a story? I get pizza leaflets and political leaflets and other causes people believe in and like to promote. Mostly I chuck it in the recycling bin whilst a cursory thought passes through my head about the trees that died. Then I carry on with my life. I wouldn’t think this was anything to write about.”
Basically you compared a bullying leaflet which carried a violent threat, was divisive and unlawful and attempted to misrepresent the Council to a pizza leaflet.
I reiterate
“The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.”
To suggest it is of no consequence and should be ignored is, I would suggest, also wrong.
The word islamophobe was invented by the muslim brotherhood as a shut-up word when they realized that racist did not apply to the multi race followers of their terrible death cult. The number of actual attacks, verbal or physical since 9/11 against islamists is miniscule compared to the number professed by those waving their victim cards and screaming “islamaphobe”. Don’t ask your imam, just look for the police statistics on the internet.
Estamos en acuerdo.
I don’t care about statistics, I have been attacked for my Muslim appearance. That makes me fearful when narrow minded people like Curious Cat consider us a homogeneous bunch. We are not. Same as all Christians are not the same.
Shumi wrote
I’m far from narrow minded as everyone who knows me will agree. I am tolerate, kind, understanding but I have a habit of disliking bullies and extremists. My only is literary not physical violence.
Muslims are not a What makes you think they are?
Muslims are diverse, have different skin colours ranging from white to sun-tanned to dark brown and even genuine black. Some drink alcohol daily, some don’t pray 5 times a day, some never frequent the mosques, not even on Fridays, and some usually don’t fast during Ramadan (usually because the large modern jets they fly need to be safely piloted especially when flying across thousands of miles of ocean).
My lovely and very helpful and kind neighbour is Moslem. Some of my good friends are Moslem, some are Sikhs, some Hindus and some even Bangladeshi. I know some whites, some Afro-Caribbeans and even some Poles too 🙂 I just love and greatly fancy the young Chinese doctor who operated on me – she was gorgeous.
I’ve been in Mosques many times during the main Friday prayers. People just accepted me. No aggro from them and none from me. Naturally I take off my shoes like everyone else and my shoes have never been missing afterwards. I’ve taken photographs inside Mosques. And I’m not anything, I’m religious-less.
Creating fear and intimidation among others is wrong. Where in the Quran does it say Allah or Mohammed thought scaring and frightening your neighbours was wise or good or even proper conduct for any Moslem ?
Those who ‘protect’ the ways of the extremists, or apologise for them, are almost as bad as the extremists.
Curious Cat.
Shumi. Could you supply us with details of these attacks, where they took place, how many people were involved, the extent of your injuries if any and where and when you reported them to the police?
Does it matter who invented the word? If you have a problem with it why don’t you invent a new one to describe fear and hate of Muslims? Let us know what it is because we need something to describe this very real phenomena.
Will their next targets be betting shops and shops selling lottery tickets?
If this man and his easily led followers, ‘cannot live among the non-Muslims and see this evil take place’ they are free to find somewhere more to their liking. It’s about time the authorities stepped in and helped them on their way.
As far as I know the word Islamophobia was invented by the Race Relations Industry specifically the totally misnamed Institute of Race Relations when it was looking to extend business opportunities by hustling grants from government and charities by inventing racism. I stand to be corrected.
Does anyone have a different starting point/ It was then taken up by the loony left especially Livingstone and co and has now spread everywhere. Fortunately most of those who propagate it are stark raving bonkers like Bob Pitt of Islamophobia Watch, the Tell Mama financial scam and the laughable Sunny Hundal.
Why such particular interest in my attacks? I reported to the police after one of the attacks, nothing was done. The next time I didn’t waste my time. Perhaps I should have. These were very scary experiences particularly I had my cousins who were young children with me on one occasion. There were two men on one occasion in Bromley by Bow and one man and one woman on the other in Mile End. It was verbal abuse which I didn’t engage in for fear of violence and left quickly.
Daily Express newspaper, South-East England/London edition, Friday, 20 December 2013, page 5 ….
Cressida Dick, of police murder a Brazilian on the tube fame (she was in charge), is quoted as saying, inter alia:-
One wonders if the Met is going to ever do anything about extremists operating within its jurisdiction ? Its tolerance (a.k.a. inaction) over than last 20+ years has been astonishing. Its only when the dangerous lunatics start to plot a terrorist attack that the lethargy Met wakes-up – probably because the Security Service (MI5) has been repeatedly kicking them out of their deep peaceful slumbers.
The newspaper article states Anjem Choudary is blamed for helping to radicalise Lee Rigby’s dangerous and mentally defective killers.
One wonders how long the English authorities are prepared to let Anjem Choudary and others do whatever they like to disrupt society in our country. We really don’t need religious extremists running around deliberately making trouble.
Curious Cat
(not a DE reader)